Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Did you know that first year nurses experience the highest turnover of any group?
That reality is staggering, but it also tells us something important.
You are not alone and your growth matters.
Welcome to the All One Nurse Podcast, where we are bridging the gap between the stethoscope and the soul through real nursing stories and nursing conversations.
Here, our mission is simple, to get back to the human side of healthcare.
I'm your host, nurse Chanel Tompkins, and I'm also your mentor and nurse educator. And this space was created just for you to breathe, to learn, to grow, and most importantly, feel supported no matter where you are in your nursing journey.
So take a deep breath and let's step into your next breakthrough.
Welcome Back to the All1Nurse podcast where we get back to the human side of healthcare together through mentorship, storytelling, and of course, a lot of encouragement. NurseNurse.org did an article on what 6,000 nurses told them about nurse life in 2025, and they do a survey every year.
And in that article they break down nursing salaries, education, job satisfaction, year over year, changes between the survey, what has been given to them, and is nursing worth it according to the nurses who have taken the survey? And yes, I have taken the survey because taking those surveys really do help give you insight on how nursing is doing. So I encourage you to go check out that article. I'm going to drop the link below and in the description. And one thing I do love is that they added data. I love data so I can state statistics all day long. But if you go look at the article, it's a lot of statistics, a lot of percentages. So I encourage you to go look at that so you'll know what we are thinking. Because 95% of the nurses who did the survey were actually nurses and 5% were students, nursing students. I think that's awesome that they break that down. Now we welcome to another episode. I'm glad you're here. And I cannot not acknowledge that it is Good Friday at the time of this release.
And so at this time, we have to remember the sacrifice of Jesus on the cross. And it's not just a moment in history, but it is the turning point in eternity. So as we lean into this conversation, let's carry that reverence with us, right? Because his love is the reason why we, we are here, especially here on the All One Earth platform.
And of course, everybody is welcomed here. But on today's episode, we're joined by someone whose journey is as unexpected as it is inspiring, Ms. Marsha Batty, RN. The bossy nurse who was also nominated for the Best of Nursing podcast creator award.
So let's celebrate Ms. Marsha as well. And I'm so glad that she joined me on this platform to share her journey, because Marsha's story is not the traditional nursing path, and that's exactly why it needs to be heard. Marsha brings a level of honesty and transparency that reminds us all that your. Your path, it doesn't have to be perfect to be purposeful. And in this conversation, we're going to explore her origin story, her transition into nursing at age 35 and the challenges that she faced in an accelerated program and the powerful work she's done in nursing across her different careers. And I think it's just awesome. I'm not going to share all here in this intro, but what we will talk about the creativity, rest, and abundance mindset that shape who she is today.
So settle in, take a deep breath as always, and let this story meet you right where you are. And let's welcome Marsha Batty to the All One Nurse podcast.
[00:04:41] Speaker B: Hey, Chanel, I'm doing great. I can't wait to be on the show and talk about everything. Nursing.
[00:04:46] Speaker A: Yes, well, welcome, welcome. Of course, we're going to dive into your personal journey, your.
I can't even say it now. Your personal journey, your nursing journey, your personal insights, and then we're going to get into patient perspective and of course, your professional insights. So I am just so glad that you are here with us.
[00:05:05] Speaker B: Thank you so much. It's a pleasure.
[00:05:07] Speaker A: Yes, ma'. Am. Now, who are you? Just, you know, everybody, Everybody sees us for who we are in the. In the context that they see us in, whether it's on social media, LinkedIn, or as a professional. But sometimes people need to know your origin story. So tell us, who are you and how did you get into nursing?
[00:05:27] Speaker B: Yeah, I consider myself a creative. I always had creative ideas. You know, growing up and being, you know, younger, I always just. Just daydreamed a lot. And so I do a lot of that today.
Sometimes in my work, I'm daydreaming sometimes.
But yeah, I'm. I'm a creative. I. I'm a daydreamer. I'm a big picture thinker, but I know how to get down into the details. And I love, I love rest. I'm in a season of rest. I'm in a season of relaxation. I'm in a season of trying to lower my stress. And so that's who I am as a person. I'm a Southern belle I consider myself a Southern belle. I was born in Texas. Texas. Raised in Louisiana. So for all of you out there who think this accent is from where I live right now, Washington, D.C. it is not. So I have a different accent when I go back home. It comes out naturally when I'm talking to my mom and my, you know, friends back home or my family back home. But, yeah, I'm a Southern belle. I'm a creative, restful person.
Dream of abundance, dream of big things still out there. Yeah.
There. I've lived a lot of life, and I have a lot of life left. So I'm excited about that. Yeah.
[00:06:43] Speaker A: Okay. Well, thank you. Thank you for sharing that now as we talk about being creative. So how do we get into nursing, and how did that journey go for you?
[00:06:52] Speaker B: So my story is probably very different from everybody you've probably had on the podcast, although I haven't heard all of your episodes, so we. We can try at that. So I was not nursing was never on my radar. Nursing sort of fell in my lap. And one story, I guess I'll share on your show because I feel comfortable with you already. I don't think I've shared this in many venues or on podcast or even on my own website or anything like this, but I was in med school.
[00:07:25] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:07:26] Speaker B: So I started off in med school, had some challenges, not in terms of the curriculum, because I think the curriculums between medical school and nursing school are, of course, different. There's just a different way of learning in both of those.
Both of those curriculums. So it wasn't the content. But I started off in med school because that's what you become when you grow up in a poor family. Right. You either become a lawyer or a doctor. For those of you who are listening who probably grew up in poor families, medicine was my goal. I was going to be a doctor.
And then, to be honest, life and medical school got in the way. And when I say that, I mean my personal life. My personal life in terms of. I'll just be open. My personal life in terms of relationships, abuse, emotional abuse, physical abuse. I was in an abusive relationship, and that sort of preoccupied my time in med school. And I was also working in med school, which is something that, of course, you should not be doing if you don't have to. You. But, yeah, I was. I was in a pretty abusive, more emotionally than physically abusive relationship. And that, of course, took a toll. I stopped going to class. I stopped going to class altogether. And the one thing that came as a big shock to me during that Whole process was, I remember I stopped going to class and I started working at Starbucks.
And I laugh about it now, I laugh about it now, but I was trying to please someone else in that moment.
And that came from me wanting to, of course, people please, but me wanting to keep a happy home at the time. And so I gave up what I was going to do by, you know, stopping medical school.
Didn't drop out yet. I just stopped going to class and started going, start. Started working just to please a partner. So, long story short, you know, that ended poorly. I dropped out of med school. And then years later, I would say five, 10 years later, maybe nursing school became part of my thought process when a friend who was a nurse sort of introduced that to me. And she mentioned, you know, I was living in LA at the time, and she was like, hey, I heard about this, you know, accelerated program. I know you've always talked about going back to med school, going back into medicine in some way. You know, I'm a nurse. Here's a program that's an accelerated program, and you can do that program. And so that's how I came. Came about. So nursing wasn't always a part of my plan, but it happened.
And I'm, I'm excited about that, to talk about that, because right now I even feel like nursing is the best decision I've ever made in my career. In terms of career. Nursing was the best decision for me. And I say that because just all the opportunities that we have in nursing. You can never get bored in nursing. I always feel like you can never get bored.
[00:10:30] Speaker A: You're true. That's true.
[00:10:32] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And so that's, that's sort of my origin story. Some of my origin story.
[00:10:37] Speaker A: So first and foremost, I just want to say. Sorry to hear that.
[00:10:41] Speaker B: Oh, no, it's fine now.
[00:10:42] Speaker A: Yeah, sorry to hear that. Because what I'm hearing you say is you initially chose medicine, but because of life, because of relationships and choosing your relationship, you decided to stop going to med school and ended up in nursing years later, down the line with a terminus.
[00:10:59] Speaker B: Years later.
[00:11:00] Speaker A: Yeah. And so. And this was around what was. Were you in your 30s?
[00:11:04] Speaker B: I actually started nursing school when I was 35. And Chanel, you're gonna make me say my age because I was in Med School 25 years ago. Can you believe it?
[00:11:15] Speaker A: See, I wasn't even going to go there, Ms. Marsha. I just wanted to give them some context because a lot of nurses that go back, well, when they decide to go to nursing school, like an accelerated program, a Lot of them have already, you know, lived. And then thankfully we have this accelerated program that, hey, is made available and it cuts the time in half, even though I'm pretty sure you can attest to how rigorous it probably is. Like, you know, a regular program would be or a normal length program would be, what, four years for a bachelor's.
[00:11:46] Speaker B: Four years if you're a bachelor's. Yeah.
[00:11:48] Speaker A: And so just imagine knocking out four years.
[00:11:50] Speaker B: Yeah, right.
[00:11:51] Speaker A: In a year and a half. So that's like, oh, my God, times 10.
[00:11:56] Speaker B: Yeah. And the program I went to, and just for those who are out there thinking about nursing, because I know you probably have some aspiring nurses on your podcast as, I mean, listeners to your show as well. I was 35 when I started.
Yeah, I was 35 when I started my nursing program. And in my program we had. I'm thinking of two older gentlemen who were in the program too. One was in his 50s, I think, at the time, and one, I want to say close to 60s, if not, oh, wow, I'll say close to 60s. So it's never too late.
[00:12:29] Speaker A: Never.
[00:12:30] Speaker B: It's never too late. Especially if you're aspiring. I love, you know, at the time, I love school, I love science, math. Nursing school sort of came easy for me. It was a year and a half program, so it was very, very fast. But you can do anything that you put your mind to.
[00:12:46] Speaker A: Yes, yeah. Yes.
Now with the accelerator program, because I know that it can be pretty challenging. I have some mentor, some mentees that I talk to, and they're in, they're in an accelerated program. So how do you get through the challenging parts of it? Like, can you. When, like, what was some of your biggest challenges and how did you overcome them during the accelerated program?
[00:13:10] Speaker B: Yeah, um, my challenge actually was financial because I was supporting, always supporting myself, you know, as an adult and now going to school for another whole degree as a 35 year old and not having the proper savings, you know, in the bank. So I worked just like I worked during med school because when you grow up a certain way, you're just used to, okay, if I have to take care of myself in some way, I have to work. So mine was financial, so I, I worked during school. But I, I have to say, the one saving grace during nursing school for me, whenever I felt stressed, like I said, I. I feel pretty good about studying in school, like, and things like that, but was the friendships that I developed in nursing school. And yes, that was about 15, 15 years ago since I. 14, 15 years ago since I Graduated. However, I'm still friends with that close handful of friends I had in nursing school. Now we don't talk every day.
Sometimes we don't talk, you know, 10 times a year. But we do keep in contact. I keep in contact with one of my nursing friends several times a week.
We go out, we hang out, we talk regularly.
I say a support system is very, very important. And you have them around you. You may, sometimes, you may not feel like it because you feel like you may be going through your own separate struggle, but lean into those around you as a support system. Whether it's forming study groups together, maybe having a time every month that you get together for something that's non nursing. Yeah, I just, I just think, you know, support group is, is one of the most important things you can have while you're in nursing school, especially accelerated program. And I know my accelerated program was a year and a half and I know there are probably like two year accelerated programs out there too. I'm not sure what the trend is exactly now or the majority of nursing programs. Um, and I, and I know it's a challenge, but again, take advantage of any free resources online. I mean, when I was in nursing school, we didn't have the resources that are available now, like the YouTube videos.
[00:15:16] Speaker A: True.
[00:15:17] Speaker B: The podcasting.
Podcasting. When I started, I started podcasting, I think in 2014, 2015, and I was in nursing school in 2010. Now there are. And when I started podcasting in 2014, 2015, there are like a handful of nursing or healthcare podcasts out there. Just a handful. And they weren't talking about school and things like that. You had maybe one or two that were, you know, doing topics like you do.
But now you have so many free resources. You have podcasts like yours, you have YouTube videos, you have, you have nurses online teaching basic nursing concepts, med surg concepts, cardiology concepts from A to Z.
So there, there's so much at our disposal now that I wish I had when I was in nursing school to make things a lot easier than reading the textbook. Yeah, the textbook was.
[00:16:10] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:16:11] Speaker B: Yeah, the textbook is, you know, dense. But now you don't. You have other options right now. So take advantage of your community. Take advantage of online resources. There are so many free resources available.
And then I would say take advantage of things like your.
I'm going to date myself when I say it this way. Like your student centers, places where you can go to meet other people on your campus, even if you're in an accelerated program. I sort of Regret the opportunities I missed about going on my actual campus besides the nursing school. Because our nursing program was mostly older. You know, I mean, we had people who just graduated from college, but we also had people in their 40s and 50s in nursing school. So take advantage of the resources you have on your campus as well, besides what you immediately see in your nursing school or your nursing building or wherever it is that you're going to class every day.
[00:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's good. And you also got to get creative. Like you said, you have to get creative. And I think one thing that I've seen with a lot of, Even with myself, is being open. Like, you have to be vulnerable. Like, you go into this program, and it's not about competing.
And unfortunately, now, you know, I've heard cases to where it's like, they're competing against each other as students, as classmates. I'm like, no, it's all about learning this content.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:35] Speaker A: And getting through, like, understanding the concept so that you're safe and passing nclex because only one name is going on that license. Right. Everybody's getting their own license, so there's no need to compete, but just understanding the material for itself. And so when you're in spaces where there may not be many, many people that look like you, it's okay. Be vulnerable to still show yourself friendly. I think that's something that I try to tell a lot of the nursing students or people who just may feel like this is just a hard program, but unfortunately, they isolate themselves, and it's like, no, you're better as a team. Get in that nursing. Like you said. Like, now they have groupme. Like, they'll. They'll create a. Some type of group me. Some type of. There's an app for everything.
[00:18:21] Speaker B: Right.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: Like, you could just. They'll meet up on different things. Only thing I can think of right now is groupme for some reason. But get a part of those conversations with your classmates and be able to discern, okay, I should be a part of this, but I may not need to be a part of this. When it comes to those conversations of, are we being productive or are we just gossiping? Right.
Or complaining? So you may not want to do much of that gossiping and complaining.
You want to be alone, be with others who are going to. Like they say, iron sharpens iron.
So you want to build each other up, encourage one another, and move forward and just go from there. So I don't know why I had to share that, but I just wanted to share that.
[00:19:03] Speaker B: Yeah. And always budget time.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. And always budget time for yourself.
That's something because I was working in nursing school too.
I was just always working. I'm looking back like, God, I never rested then. But that's. I think that's why it's. One of my words right now is rest.
Always build in time for rest and breaks. Because the content, content will always be there. You can always come back to it. But you have to build in that time for self care, for breaks. As challenging as it may be, and as you know, the little time that you feel like you may have, it's. It's very important still to build in time for breaks as well.
[00:19:42] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you mentioned that because what I found is we come through nursing school and you have this organized chaos and then you get out there and guess what? Is organized chaos all over again.
[00:19:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:19:56] Speaker A: You have to build it up, man. A different version of burnout, but burnout is still burnout. Right. So speaking of going out and when you get your degree in your 30s and now you're out there, what. What did you decide to do when you first came out of nursing school?
[00:20:12] Speaker B: Well, honestly, it was decided for me.
[00:20:16] Speaker A: So I love it.
[00:20:17] Speaker B: In our. Yeah. In our program, our class, we had a challenging time with the. So I got a scholarship that like paid like 80% of my tuition.
And so with that scholarship came the opportunity that you're going to work for a certain organization, which we all did. Those 30 some odd of us who got that scholarship. You're going to work for this organization. Basically, they put us where they wanted us to go. And so I wound up, although I wanted a different floor at the time, I think I, at the time I wanted to try ICU or ED at the very beginning, but it just so happens I was chosen or put there or placed there to be on a burn trauma step down unit. And yeah, and I learned so much more than I thought I would on that unit because not only was I getting the med surg piece because we also had some med surg overflow on our floor, but it was learning a real specialty too. Med surg is a specialty. Don't get me wrong, I don't want to put that out there, but med surg is a specialty, but I got to learn burn working with burn patients. And we were a step down unit. So oftentimes we're getting severely burned patients coming down from the icu, the burn icu. And so we were a level one trauma center. So yeah, burn Trauma step down is where I started. And then I went right into the ED after that and then found a real fascinating love, which was forensic nursing.
[00:21:43] Speaker A: Really.
[00:21:43] Speaker B: So I was. Yeah, yeah, I started as a forensic nurse and in that role I took care of patients following a sexual assault, domestic violence and intentional trauma. So some days I might have, you know, a patient, you know, sexual assault patient who, who was assaulted. And then the next day I would have gunshot wounds and stabbings.
[00:22:06] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:22:07] Speaker B: So it was a really fascinating field to be in. And to this day I say it was probably, I want to say the most rewarding in terms of staff nursing that I've done. And I've done plenty of different, other specialties like eating disorders, you know, psych, just, just pace centers, various, various things. So. But yeah, that was the one thing I really loved. And then I went into leadership and patient clinical education.
Right now I'm consulting. So, yeah, just a lot of different things. But that's what I, that's what I mean when I say nursing is like the best career decision I've.
Because you can just do so many things that. And you just never know what's out there and you always have to be curious about what's out there and want to learn more. Yeah.
[00:22:57] Speaker A: Oh, my God. You have an interesting journey just from beginning to end. I'm telling you. You are very correct when you said, I'm pretty sure my story did not start like many of your other guests and it did not. I'm here to confirm that it did not. As well as your experience being on a burn step down unit and then moving into the ed and then you also got to do forensic nursing and then you. And some psych, like eating disorder. Like. That's awesome. Yeah, that is awesome. Now, did you do all of this with bsn?
[00:23:28] Speaker B: Yes. So I only have a bsn.
[00:23:31] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:23:31] Speaker B: And so I've done well. I don't want to ever discourage anyone for going back to grad school. I said if I go back to grad school again, I'm going to be exactly, you know, really sure about what it is that I want to do when I go back to grad school. So I haven't had the grad school bug yet. It may come when I'm a little bit older right now.
Yeah. I heard one of your episodes where someone's convincing you to go and get your DNPs.
[00:23:57] Speaker A: Angel White. Dr. Angel White.
[00:24:02] Speaker B: Which is a good episode, by the way, if you haven't heard that episode with Dr. Angel White.
[00:24:06] Speaker A: Yes.
I interrupt this episode for Faith in a Mate Intermission Notes I believe this is a good pause to interrupt and give you our faith intermission Note which is the God who redeems detours. Because sometimes what we imagine for ourselves is not the path that God ultimately uses to shape us. And that can feel confusing, it can feel disappointing and even unfair until we look back in hindsight and, you know, hindsight 20 20, as y' all say, and realize that God was actually guiding us the entire time. And Marsha's story reminds us that detours are not dead ends. And they are often the very places where God reveals us. He may redirect us and prepare us for the work that he has actually called us to do.
And the scripture that I want you to meditate on this week is Isaiah 43, verse 19. And it says, says, see, I am doing a new thing. I am making a way in the wilderness and streams in the wasteland. Now, if you're listening today and you feel like you're behind and you may be starting over at age 30, 40, or 50, or even older than that, just know that life has never life, how can I say this? Life has never has never asked you how would you like the day to be right? And if life has taken you on a path that you never planned, then you can still take heart. Because God is not.
He is not intimidated by your timeline. He's not intimidated by what has happened. He is the same God yesterday, today, and forevermore. And he is not limited by your past or my past. And he is not done writing your story. And your detour may be the very place where purpose is born. And so I pray that you will just take God at His word and what he says, but take that moment to be still with him and it doesn't have to be on your face, in your closet tears. And it don't always have to be emotional, emotionally driven. There's more to be said with building a relationship with God through consistently showing up with him in your car before you eat, before you get in bed and go to sleep at night or when as soon as you wake up. Good morning, Father. Good morning, love. Thank you for loving me so.
I usually don't go this far in my faith intermission note, but let's get right back to our conversation with Marsha. And I do want to add, if you are not a subscriber, go ahead and click that subscribe button and share this with someone who may need some encouragement. Okay, let's tune back in because Marsha is just getting started.
[00:27:20] Speaker B: But yeah. So, yeah, I don't discourage anyone for going back to grad school, but I can say to you that you can do many things not only with a bsn, but with an LPN as well. So I've been in leadership. I've run large clinics in la. I've run or helped set up during COVID monoclonal antibody centers, being the nurse manager, you know, been a travel nurse leader, interim leader, you know, where I'm running, quote, departments at, you know, at healthcare organizations, Covid and flu clinics. Yeah. So, and I, and I did it all with a bachelor's of nursing degree. So there are so many opportunities you have right now at your fingertips. Even if you feel, you know, that grad school, of course, is the next step. If you don't feel like you quite know whether you're going to get your fnp, a women's health nurse practitioner, or go into nursing informatics, if you don't know quite yet, it's okay to try your hand at a lot of different things and see what interests you because you can do a lot of different things with your son. So that's what I love about nursing. Yeah.
[00:28:29] Speaker A: Yes. Awesome. Awesome. Now, just to transition into patient perspective during your time at the bedside, how would patients describe you?
[00:28:41] Speaker B: So patients, let's see. I'm trying. I'll sit, put myself in my patient's place. If they were to describe me, I would say, you know what, Chanel, I sometimes I say to myself, I don't think I was that good of a nurse. Um, but I would say I was sort of still task based as a nurse at the bedside, working at a busy hospital, probably any hospital, if I'm honest, but working at, you know, on a unit, burn, trauma, step down or med surg or whatever unit it was that I was working, I always felt like I was in task mode. So if a patient had to describe me, they would probably look at me and say that I was always hurried. I was always, you know, felt she, she seemed rushed. I can see somebody maybe saying something like she seemed rushed all the time. And you know, I do believe I'm an empathetic person and I try to put myself in my patient's shoes and understand. And sometimes it comes naturally because I'm a highly sensitive person, whether it's feelings, sounds, sights, smells, anything. So I would, I think they would say I'm hurried, I'm rushed. And I would say I'm meticulous and detail oriented in terms of care, which made me feel like I was a slower person. And so that's, I think, why I always felt like I was rushing all the time because I always felt like I always had someone in the back of my mind, another patient in another room, on the back of my mind, like, okay, I know I got, I, I can dedicate it a minute to you right now, but something else is going on in the back of my mind. I always felt like that on the floor. And so I have, if I have to be honest, nursing on the floor was not a fun thing for me, especially being an introvert. Yeah, it was, it was, it was a challenge for me. Now once I moved into other roles within nursing, I sort of found my, my way. But yeah, I would, I would still say if I had to look back on it, nursing was a challenge. And probably my patients probably thought that she was just, why is she always going? Why is she always going? She's always on to the next thing. So, yeah.
[00:30:37] Speaker A: So what advice would you have? Looking back in hindsight and knowing what you know now? What advice would you give your younger self, the newer nurse that's coming out of school like in May, slow down.
[00:30:50] Speaker B: Hindsight is 20 20, of course, but slow down. Like I, I think of myself back then when I was just first starting and just wanting to get everything right and make sure I pleased everyone on the four, because I'm a people ple, you know, still, you know, recovering, people pleaser, slowing down and not being afraid to ask questions. And I have to say, sometimes not being afraid to ask questions depends on your preceptor as well. Because I had a challenging time with my first preceptor and, you know, if she ever hears this episode, she knows who she saw, she knows who she is. And we eventually, you know, made do in the end. We eventually had some heart to heart, you know, actually became quite close in terms of a working relationship and, and I saw the person for who she was, saw her for who she was when I got to know her more. But I think not being afraid to ask questions of those around you and slowing down, but going back to the not being afraid to ask questions. I remember once going into a patient's room where my preceptor told me, oh yeah, go take out the iv. And as a new nurse, how many new nurses, unless you know, your school allows you to do this, shows you just how to do simple things like take out IVs. No, we didn't learn how to take out IVs. We didn't even learn to do blood draws in nursing school. I Mean, you know, we have that mannequin arm, but that's about it. Yeah. And so my preceptor said, you know, go, just go take out their iv. They're getting ready to leave or some situation like that. And I was like, can you come in the room? I was like, can you just come with me? You know, and I'm a 35 year old, 35, 36 year old, asking my preceptor, you know, can you just please come in the room with me? You know, because I really don't know. And she was just like making fun of the fact that my school, my nursing school, my fancy nursing school didn't teach me how to do IVs or how to take out IVs or whatever.
So I went and did the best that I could do. And I said, I came back to the nurse's station and I told her I took out the iv and. And so she goes in the room and she's like, what did you do? And so I took off the. What do you call it? Oh, my God. Lure. The lure type enclave. Yeah. I can't even think it's been so long since I've been on the bedside. But I took out one portion of it and, you know, she was just like frantic, like, why did you do that? I was like, I thought, you know, that that's how you told me to do it.
[00:33:15] Speaker A: Take it out.
[00:33:15] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, you take it out. And so she was like, no. And just basically like, sort of made me feel like an idiot in the moment. Well, you know, I felt like an idiot in the moment. I think it was a product of me not feeling as comfortable with my preceptor and asking questions. And I think if you are in that type of situation where you have a challenging relationship with the preceptor or someone who's mentoring you, don't be afraid to ask anybody else. Because oftentimes in that situation, what I did was I would just go to the charge nurses, and they were just the nicest women on our floor. The charge nurses can help you. Anybody else can help you. Your fellow nurse classmates who've done sort of things before. Yeah, I say go to them as well. So, yeah, don't be afraid to ask for help. Slow down.
Those are my two biggest things.
[00:33:59] Speaker A: I love that you mentioned that. Thanks for being vulnerable on this episode with us. Like, you're. I can't even. I can't even. I just. Thank you. Because they need to hear this. Because it's instances like that that robs people of their confidence and, and it's like the audacity. Like as a preceptor, you were once in those shoes. And then we have to understand, because I was just talking to a group of students that's getting ready to graduate in December.
And you know, I asked them, anybody got an internship? And you know, some of them didn't have an internship, Some of them wasn't working. But if you have an internship or if you're in the role of a pca, yes, you are more inclined to have an understanding of these skills because you've watched the nurses do them, but have grace with the nurse, the new nurse, who. This is their first time coming into a hospital setting. I was that new nurse and some of the students I was recently speaking with, they were just like, I mean, I want to get an internship. And I was like, you got time?
[00:35:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:03] Speaker A: Take your time. If you have to look at your whole, look at your, look at your situation. If you don't have to work, don't go, don't. Don't try to.
Just to say, I want to get experience. No, it's different. An intern being an intern and graduating and starting to practice, like, train to be a nurse. Two totally different roles. So it's like, don't even put yourself in a, in a pickle. I want to say, if you don't have to.
[00:35:32] Speaker B: Yeah. And Chanel, I have to say too, that experience working with that preceptor. And again, no, you know, we, I'm sure, you know, we'll have no problems with each other if she heard me saying this. But that particular situation my first year on the four taught me how I never would ever want to treat a nursing student.
[00:35:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:55] Speaker B: Any new nurse coming into my care under my leadership, preceptorship, no matter. And I've been in management where I've, you know, managed. The biggest number of people I've managed is 40 plus nurses and MAs. As a clinical manager in a big clinic in LA, I always came from the perspective of teach them like they were a child. Even if they didn't ask and if they say a, oh, I already know that, then it's like, okay, ask for forgiveness. Okay, I'd rather teach you from the basic way. I'd rather teach you from the beginning and teach them like you remember your first day on a floor.
No matter how many years they've been doing it, it's always, it's always better to ask for forgiveness if you feel like you're insulting person by teaching them the very basics but yeah, that experience, my first year, I always think about when someone's. When I'm, you know, in a leadership position, I always think about the first time I was a new nurse. And I always teach from that perspective. So, yeah, if, if you're now a seasoned nurse or even a first year nurse or a second year nurse, just always remember what it was like when you were a first year nurse. You know, that first day on the floor. Just treat people like they were, you know, they're on their first day of before. If they ask you a question, treat them like they're their first day on their floor.
[00:37:16] Speaker A: I love it. You said teach them like they were as if they are a child.
[00:37:21] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:22] Speaker A: And then you can always ask for forgiveness.
[00:37:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:37:25] Speaker A: If they, if they come back with, I already know that, but at least you give them.
[00:37:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:37:30] Speaker A: Versus you don't know how to do that.
[00:37:32] Speaker B: Right.
[00:37:32] Speaker A: Who taught you or who didn't teach you that? And you came through nursing school. I had a receptor. My one moment with my preceptor is we were on night shift and I needed to put a nurse, a student, not student, blah, blah, blah. I needed to put a patient in restraints.
I had never restrained anyone. And so I went to go get the restraints out of the pyxis and I come back to the nursing station. Everybody's sitting around and I was like, hey, I'm ready. You come help me put these restraints. She was like, go ahead. And I was like, I need help. And she was like, it's like tying a horse knot. And I just looked at her, I
[00:38:12] Speaker B: said, I don't know how to tie a horse knot.
[00:38:14] Speaker A: Look, I told her, I said, do it look like I ride horses? And they. Everybody just bust out laughing because I was there. I was like, yeah, don't look like I do it look like I ride horses?
And so she just kind of looked at me and I was like, now, come on. And she came and she helped me, but it's like, girl, girl, don't do that. Don't do that. What may seem simple because you have had the. You have had that moment to be repetitive and to do it over and over again.
It's my very first time.
[00:38:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:38:44] Speaker A: Very first time. So thank you for sharing that. And it, it is. And that shows me, this moment shows me what type of leader you are, what type of leader you are. I love it. It's like you're. I would say you're a servant leader. Like you, you are mindful of those that you lead. Right. Or were leading In. In regards to being a manager or a leader in administrative role. So I think that is awesome. That speaks volumes of you, Ms. Marcia. And speaking of.
[00:39:11] Speaker B: Had good role models. Yeah.
[00:39:13] Speaker A: And speaking of your roles, tell us about your current role right now. What. What is your current role? Tell us a little bit about that, Ms. Bossy. Nurse.
[00:39:23] Speaker B: I know. Yeah. So right now, in nursing, I work as a nurse, but I'm a remote nurse.
I work as a nurse consultant and I work for a health plan, and I do consulting work versus nursing work. And when I say that nurse consulting is a lot different from what you think of as a typical, you know, staffing role.
Are paid or are worked for what we know, we are advised for what we know, not, of course, what we do. When you're in a regular nursing role or a staffing nursing role, of course you're. You're focused on tasks a lot. Of course, there's a lot of critical thinking in those roles as well. In the nurse consulting role. I do a lot of things in this role, including things like making sure providers are compliant with regulatory laws within the state.
[00:40:19] Speaker A: Gotcha.
[00:40:20] Speaker B: Helping with program implementation. My real title within my organization is implementation lead, although that's not my official title, but that's what they call me, an implementation lead. So basically I'm, you know, leading up a lot of work groups. I create work groups if I need them, um, project plans. So I may be given a certain portfolio of work, and it's going to be my responsibility to sort of get that work and just run with it. And I'll give you an example, say, for instance, within the health plan that I work in, we are really, as an implementation lead in my role, it's really important for me to what regulations and laws say about the particular portfolio that I have. So if I had, say, maternal health as part of my portfolio work, any regulations, any guidance, any laws coming down within that state or federally regarding maternal health and maternal health care or, you know, care with children, because that's often tied together. It's my role as an implementation lead to look at that guidance, look at those regulations, do a gap analysis. And basically a gap analysis is looking at what our organization already does and then figuring out where that fits in with the guidance or with the laws. So say, for instance, if we're given the guidance that mothers should, just for an example, which is not a real example right now, that mothers are supposed to get, you know, this particular vaccine, you know, to help with the health of the child, and that's a new guidance That's a requirement. Now it's my role as an implementation lead or implementation consultant to read that guidance, see what we're already doing that fits that guidance. And then if we're not doing something within that guidance, say for instance, a particular age group giving that vaccine to a particular age group, then it's my role to, as an implementation lead, reach out to various stakeholders who would be involved in that particular piece of the care, reach out to those stakeholders, assess what it is that we are already doing, assess what we're not doing, and then if there is a huge gap in what we're not doing, what part of my role can be is gathering a work group of stakeholders. And I work anywhere with, you know, program management, vice presidents and executive directors on a daily basis in the health plan. So I work with higher level leadership to make sure I get, you know, I can get a work group together so we can discuss what gaps we have and how we're going to implement these, help develop workflows for those gaps. So how are we actually going to implement making sure this patient, you know, gets this vaccine from them coming in the front door to them leaving, you know, just figuring out that workflow. So it's important to do, you know, bring a work group together of stakeholders who's involved in that particular care everywhere from, you know, you might think of workflows as, okay, what's it like when they first come into a clinic? What's it like when it's checking in? If this is now a requirement, do we have some sort of form that they're filling out or some sort of thing that they're answering questions in their electronic health record when they're seeing the medical assistant or the nurse in the clinic room? And then what's the workflow after that? What about discharge, what about instructions? You know, what education are we providing for them after they get this particular vaccine? So within that work group, within implementing that guidance, you're going from basically A to Z of that particular guidance or regulation. So a lot of my role is implementation, creating work groups. Um, I actually have a project right now where I'm now about to put together a work group on a certain topic, health education, within my particular portfolio. So that means I'm gathering, you know, a lot of just gathering the knowledge base right now of what we have and what we're not doing, you know, so, yeah, so program management, reviewing data, I rarely review charts. Reviewing charts comes at a time when we're doing audits.
So I'll review charts and oftentimes I like to tell nurses this who don't know. I have colleagues who are consultants as well, but they're not nurses. And so a few times in, during audit I've been asked by my colleagues who are doing the same role that I'm in, but they're not nursing, they don't have access to patient records. I have access to patient records for the whole healthcare organization, so I have all patient access. So oftentimes I'm the one actually doing my colleagues work because I have, because I have a nursing license and I want to. Yeah. And so that goes to show you with a bachelor's degree. Yeah, I'm a consultant. Yeah. There are, there are people on my team who don't have nursing licenses who are doing health care consulting roles. So you can do this with an lpn, you can do it with a bachelor's degree, of course, a master's degree. They love you when you have master's degrees and you know, higher level degrees as well. So yeah, so that's the work I do every day. I work within a health plan. I implement guidance from the state making sure that's implemented within our organization. So working in work groups, developing workflows, doing gap analyses, imparting all of the information down to the provider level to ensure that we're following guidance and we're
[00:46:02] Speaker A: adhering to guidance as an implement. Lee, when you speak on health plan, that could be.
[00:46:08] Speaker B: I didn't know the back end of healthcare until I became a consultant was front facing. I was patient facing, always have been front patient facing. If I wasn't in a nurse educator role because I've been a nurse educator before, worked as nurse coordinator within the doj. I've done done a lot of different things, but they were mostly patient facing. This is the very first time I've had the opportunity work behind the scenes in healthcare. And when I tell you, eyes open, what it means to provide care from a payer perspective and how, you know, important cost savings are, we look at all of those things. We don't only look at patient care and of course making sure our patient gets the quality care that they need. We're looking at the bottom line as well. And how we're trying to save money like once is very interesting. And I, I have to say I'm what I consider a highly paid remote nurse and that's my way of coining it. But it's basically nurses who work remotely who make between 140 to $180,000 a year plus and there are roles out there. You usually. Yeah. When we think of remote nursing, sometimes we're used to seeing the roles like case management or utilization management, utilization review, grievance and appeals nurses, or triage nurses, or telehealth, something like that. And those are wonderful opportunities to first get your foot in the door. Oftentimes, though, you'll find that sometimes those roles pay a lot less than what you may make on the floor. I remember a couple of years ago when I was looking for something remote, I would get in all of the remote Facebook groups. And I'm still in some of those groups, and I'm still like lurking, just seeing what's out there and what people are talking about.
But I remember a couple of years ago, before I got this remote position that I was so bent on, okay, I want to work from home, I want to work from home. How am I going to do this? And at the time I was like, there's no way I can do it. Because I was seeing that some of these roles were paying like 70 to 80 thousand dollars a year. And when you're making. When you're working in California and you're making a lot of money to sort of. Yeah. And your rent is a lot more than what, you know, it would be, you know, expected if you were starting off at a 70 to $80,000 a year. So that just not. Would not be feasible for some nurses who are coming in from those higher states. I was completely turned off from working remotely.
And then I was sort of not really wanting to go into case management or utilization review.
And this role came by chance.
I was in an airport and I was on a nursing super. I was a interim leader in a travel assignment. So I was working as a clinical nurse manager managing that clinic out in California. And my role with that agency, they allowed me and they paid me if I wanted to go home every two weeks. So I live in Washington, D.C. but I was working in California.
So I was. Yeah, every two weeks, maybe once a month. Sometimes I would just relax in my hotel room in California and not travel. But oftentimes I would fly home, you know, just to check on my mail, move my car, because I was parked on a street where you. You couldn't, you know, you zoning and stuff like that. So you had to move your car. So I was always worried about my car. So I was going home often, you know, to check my mail, to just check on being home. And I remember on one of those trips, and it was closing, close to the end of my assignment, which was ending 12 20, 23, and I was in the airport on a layover and walking to my next gate, and I got a phone call from somebody who claimed they had a remote nursing role for me.
And I was like, already? Oh, yeah, a remote nurse role? Yeah, it's going to pay a lot less than what I'm making because at that particular role, I was 170 plus. I mean, I'm all about pay transparency too.
So I was making one close to 180 in that role in California. Plus my house, hotel was paid for, my car rental car was paid for. So all that was like my income.
And so I was like, I cannot go to a. You know, I was thinking to myself when she said, hey, I have a remote nurse role. I found you on. Indeed. I found your resume. You had some keywords or whatever. And I was like, I cannot go to a role making 70 to 80 thousand dollars a year. My expenses are just too much at this time. I can't do it. And so when she asked me, she was like, hey, would you be interested? I was like, well, I've never worked in this type of role. I don't know. And she was like, yeah, it's. And she didn't. I don't think she told me on that call, in that particular call, who the.
The health plan. She might have told me who the health plan was. I couldn't remember. But she said, hey, do you want to work?
Is this something you're interested in? And I said, yeah. She was like, well, what salary you're expecting? I was like, you know what? I'm just going to tell her what my salary.
There is no way this lady is going to pay me or be able to pay me what my salary is, because I've seen in the Facebook groups what those salaries were. And so I told her my salary rate. I told her a dollar more than what I was making per hour. And you know what she said to me? She was like, oh, that's no problem.
[00:51:20] Speaker A: Come on.
[00:51:21] Speaker B: I was like, wait a minute. First of all, I obviously told you the wrong number. I should have said a lot higher. Because when I told you my number, you were like, oh, no problem.
Right? So they had the money to pay me that. And I was kicking myself. I was like, well, I don't believe this is real. So I just kept saying to myself, this isn't real. So I was like. She was like, do you want to interview? I said, yeah, set me up for an interview. I'm like, this lady is a scam. You know, this lady is a scam. You know, there's no way I can work from home making more than what I'm working in California as a nurse. And so a couple of weeks later, she called me and she said, okay, they want to interview you. And when I got the email from the organization's email address, I was like, this is.
[00:52:02] Speaker A: It's official.
[00:52:03] Speaker B: She wasn't joking. She wasn't a scam.
Did you. So, you know, yeah, I was like, oh, okay, I gotta do this interview. I gotta get on it. I gotta, you know, impress. It was three interviews over the course of two and a half, three months. It took three months to get that job. In the meantime, I turned down two roles. I turned down an executive director role where I had two offices, and I turned down a director of operations role for medical practice because I was like, I want to be at home. You know, I want to work from home. I want to have that opportunity. And so, yeah, three months later, I was. It took a while, you know, and now I know why it took a while to sort of come on board, because I know how hard it is to get on people's calendar right now in my. My role, because I want to have meetings often. I want to have meetings with you. And so when you say, okay, well, we can't do this week because our times don't match, so it's the next week, so. So, yeah, it took three months. It doesn't usually take that long, I would say probably, to get a role like this. But my team, the team that I work on is a very busy team, and I interview with the executive directors and senior managers, so they're pretty busy, but, yeah, so it's possible.
And again, I have a bachelor's degree in nursing, and my colleagues who work alongside me don't have nursing degrees doing this work. So for those of you who are new nurses, I would say get at least a year under your belt because you want to be able to speak to workflows. That's one thing that we can call out that my other colleagues can't. I'm the only nurse on my team.
There are 5, 6, 7, 8, about 10 of us on my immediate team. I'm the only nurse. So oftentimes we as nurses don't know about these opportunities because we. What we're taught in nursing school is staff nursing. And that's the only thing we're taught in nursing school. We're not taught about other opportunities. And I've talked about this on my podcast before, too, with some of My guests. But there are other opportunities. So nursing can be for everybody. You can find in your way. You can fit in, get in where you fit in. And this is a good fit for me, not only because it's remote. Everybody would. Well, not everybody loves to work remotely, I have to say. But, yeah, it's an opportunity that you may not know about. And that's why I say be curious.
And that's how I found all of these unique opportunities that I've been in for myself, is because I've been curious along the way.
[00:54:23] Speaker A: That's good. And you made me go back. You made me think back to our very first question. Who are you? What's your origin story? And you started off with a. You're like, I'm a thinker. I'm a creator.
[00:54:36] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:54:37] Speaker A: And so just think about the position that you're in now as a physician. Would you be doing what you're doing now as a consultant?
[00:54:46] Speaker B: No, I would not. I would not have probably known about this opportunity, or it may have taken me this long, too, to know about this opportunity.
True. If I went to med school, if I was on that same track and stayed in med school and stopped skipping med school to go to Starbucks and work, I might be. How many years as a doctor? Almost 30 years as a doctor.
Wow, That's a long time. But.
So this opportunity, that's why I love nursing. There's just so much you can do with nursing. You just have to be curious. You have to be curious. Go try that specialty that you've never
[00:55:27] Speaker A: heard of as an introvert.
[00:55:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:55:30] Speaker A: When did you make the decision to go from your very first position with the burn step down unit to edit? Like, when did you say, okay, I'm transferring. Can you remember?
[00:55:41] Speaker B: I think it was. It was either between 10 months to a year.
And just a quick story about that. You ever heard of a bully?
So our. Our nurse manager was the bully on our floor. And. And it's not just me who would say that. From our first. From my first experience, but it was a challenge being on our floor when our nursing director was there. It was a hard floor to be on. I'll just say that. And I always. Because the program I was in sort of put us in certain units when we graduated, I always still wanted to go to the er. And I'm glad I got the burn experience first, though, because I don't think I would have ever had that opportunity. I mean, you don't have burn clinics and burn floors at other hospitals. Yeah. So I'm Glad I had the opportunity, but I wanted to go into the ed and the way I did it, she didn't want to let me transfer. She was not going to let me transfer. And so she took a month vacation and I applied within that month and went and talked to the ED director and we got the whole thing settled. She was gone.
[00:56:57] Speaker A: It worked out and it worked out.
[00:56:59] Speaker B: So. So, yeah, so it was within, I would say, I guess it was like a year's time period.
[00:57:04] Speaker A: Gotcha.
[00:57:05] Speaker B: Yeah. But I'm one who says, and I will say this all the time, any specialty will give you a foundation in your ideal nursing practice. Any specialty. So you don't have to start off in med surg. If there's another opportunity that you have available to you that you want to go into, any specialty will give you a foundation in your nursing practice. Any specialty.
[00:57:26] Speaker A: That's awesome. And I love the remote nursing.
You know, like I was discussing with you before even starting this episode with you, I see a lot of new nurses that are very intelligent, very book oriented. Like they know their, they know their content, but they may not mesh well with bedside nursing. That's, you know, at this point, that's okay. Just like you don't have to start on med surgical. It's okay. Or it's okay to start an icu, find out you hate it, or find out that you're overwhelmed and go to med surg. And that's okay. I love this episode with you, this conversation with you, because you get to speak to remote nursing and the many different specialties or areas of nursing that you've done with your bsn, that new nurses can listen and say, okay, I don't have to step out of nursing altogether.
[00:58:20] Speaker B: No.
[00:58:20] Speaker A: Because there's more to nursing than it is, than what we see. Than what we see. So I really appreciate this conversation with you, Marsha. You have truly blessed me.
[00:58:31] Speaker B: Thank you, Chanel. That means so much.
[00:58:35] Speaker A: Yes, ma'. Am. Now, as we wrap up this episode, how can listeners connect with you? Marcia, as we wrap up.
[00:58:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. I can say I'm not the best with social media.
I try over and over again. I just can't consistently do it. Although I'll get on social media and my handle is Arsha Bati on Instagram or Facebook. But the best way to get in touch with me, if you have questions, just reach. I'm old fashioned. Reach out to me by email. You reach out to me at team the bossy nurse.com and either I or one of my team members will get in Touch with you. So team the bossynurse.com and I wanted to say too, for your listeners, I do have a free resource on how to get into highly paid remote nurse work. Just a quick tip sheet on the best tips that I have for you. So you can find that at the bossy nurse.com/forward/free. So you'll find some free resources there. But yeah, so team the bossy nurse.com is the best way, if I'm honest. Thank you.
[00:59:39] Speaker A: Look, I'm gonna tell you, I've already signed up for your newsletter.
[00:59:43] Speaker B: Oh, awesome. On your website.
[00:59:44] Speaker A: Yes, ma', am. I've signed up myself.
[00:59:47] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:59:48] Speaker A: Tell us a little bit more about the Bossy Nurse podcast and where they can tune in and subscribe.
[00:59:54] Speaker B: Yes.
Also at the bossy nurse.com, you'll see a menu item that says podcast. You can listen to it there. Now, I am one of those old school podcasters. So I started podcasting back in 2014 or 2015. I can't remember the exact year. I want to say it was 2014, 2015, but it's either one of those. Um, yeah, so I. My very first podcast was the RN Podcast. Way back in the day I did a podcast series and I interviewed about 12, I think, nurses for a series. And that podcast became an itunes doing noteworthy podcast back in the day. So for those of you who never listened to podcasts 11 years ago, which a lot of people didn't, um, I was just getting into podcasting then.
It was a new sort of thing back then. So, yeah, so the RM podcast was my first podcast and then I did some episodes on the Marcia, Marcia, Marcia podcast. And now I do the Boston Nurse podcast, which I just relaunched my podcasting adventure back in September, October of 2025. And so the first season is already done. I interviewed about 10 nurses and then the second season is on now I've had two episodes up already. Chanel's gonna be on my podcast coming up. Yes, yes, yes. So, yeah, if you wanna listen in, go to thebossingnurse.com forward/podcast or you'll see it at the homepage. Just go to the bossy nurse dot com. You can also found, find us in Apple, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast on your podcast app.
And then of course, I can't wait to interview Chanel and have her episode go live so we can share with the audience. But yeah, and if you want to be on the show or if you want to feature, have a feature on our website. I do. If you go to the bossy nurse.com, you'll see stories on nurses. So if you have an interesting story, an interesting feature, have something to share with our nursing audience if you're on the newsletter. So whenever you sign up for the free guides or anything at the free link, that puts you on the newsletter. And that's where I send out information about being on the podcast or being featured on the website. So would love to feature some of your listeners on the podcast or on the website and share their stories, share their products, share what they're doing in terms of nursing and in their careers. Innovators, creators, risk takers is my, like, tagline for my podcast. So I'd love to share. Yeah.
[01:02:26] Speaker A: Yes. That is so awesome. And I just love it because I just see, you know, sharing is caring, but also just creating a platform where we can grow with what we do have, like, passing that baton and growing with what we have to offer.
And it's like not holding back, but just moving forward. And how can we, you know, as nurses. Oh, I just love this. But I can keep going. But we've been here.
[01:02:51] Speaker B: Oh, that's okay.
[01:02:52] Speaker A: So I'm like, I can keep going. My husband like, girl, where you at?
[01:02:56] Speaker B: I'm okay.
Yes.
[01:02:59] Speaker A: I just love.
I love the Bossy Nurse. And I did see that you interviewed Dr. Danielle McKamey.
[01:03:08] Speaker B: Yeah. Am I saying it right? Yes. Dr. Danielle McCamey. Yes.
[01:03:11] Speaker A: I plan.
[01:03:12] Speaker B: She was my first interview. Yes.
[01:03:14] Speaker A: Yes.
[01:03:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:03:15] Speaker A: I got to meet her at the. At the conference that I went to recently, the Nurse Making Business Moves. She named it Business Moves. The Nurses Making Business Moves Conference.
[01:03:27] Speaker B: And I heard your last episode about your lessons learned on that one. Yeah.
[01:03:32] Speaker A: I can't wait to have Dr. McKamey on here to talk about the different. The five types of mentors that we should have.
So I can't wait to dive into that. I know. So y' all gotta stay tuned.
[01:03:44] Speaker B: Stay tuned.
[01:03:45] Speaker A: And I cannot wait to be on the Bossy Nurse, because then we can get into all the things leadership and, like, impact. Impact. So I'm excited. I'm excited.
[01:03:56] Speaker B: And can we just say congratulations to Chanel? Can we just say that? Because Chanel's podcast is one the best of nursing for content creators in the podcast series. So I just want to give Chanel a shout out to her podcast. I love the guests that you have on your podcast. You have some real, real episodes, and I really love the deep dives that you do with your conversations with your guest. And you can tell, you know, everybody's just being true to self. So congratulations to Chanel on her, her award award winning podcast.
[01:04:32] Speaker A: Thank you. Thank you. And you're also, you are finalist. So. Hey, we're winning together. We're winning together.
Thank you so much. I tell them this a God thing. Such a God thing. And last year when I was a finalist as well, it was like I felt like I had won because when Sarah Lorenzini had actually won the rapid response rn. Yes, I was like, I won because I actually, I was like, sarah, can I have you on my podcast? And she was like, yeah. I said, I'm winning. I done won. My cup is full. It's not all of your information Bossy Nurse podcast link in the description below.
All of your social media links or just your, your handle so that if others want to reach out to you on social media, they can. But I know going to your website is probably going to be the best way for them.
[01:05:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And I, and I, you know, guys, I'm trying, I'm, I'm trying to get on that social media. I try all the time. I try. It's hard for me, but you know, it's okay.
[01:05:34] Speaker A: That's a full time job in itself. You don't need an assistant and everything else. So I, yeah, it's okay. It's okay. Some of the, some of the greatest impact comes from word of mouth.
[01:05:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I agree.
[01:05:46] Speaker A: Some of the greatest impact, it don't come from metrics. It come from purpose, from word of mouth and how you connect and be present with others. And I'm proof of that. Yeah, I am proof of that.
Thank you so much and I'll see you on the Bossy Nurse podcast soon.
[01:06:03] Speaker B: All right, I'll see you soon.
[01:06:05] Speaker A: Yes. Bye for joining us in this powerful conversation with Marsha Bhatti. Her journey is definitely a reminder that purpose doesn't always arrive in a straight line. Seriously. Sometimes it is through resilience, reintervention, and the courage to begin again. Just being honest. So I love her story of transparency and vulnerability. And if Marsha's story encouraged you today, please again share this episode with a friend, a classmate, or a nurse who just needs to be reminded that it's never too late to step into what God has for them. And as always, remember that you are part of a community here at all One Earth, because we see you, support you, and believe in the work that God is doing. And I would not be who I am if I did not for Good Friday because this is such a, a powerful moment, such a serious moment to invite you if you've never made the decision to follow Jesus Christ as your Lord or Savior. Lord and Savior. Or maybe you've drifted and you want to come back. Today is a beautiful day to begin again. Good Friday. It starts with three simple steps, and it's as easy as A B C A Admit that you've sinned or that you've tried to do life on your own and that you need God's grace. B is believe. Believe that Jesus died for you and rose again to give you a new life. And C stands for choose. You choose to live the way God calls you to and not just how you feel or what culture says, but the way of truth, love and purpose. And you don't have to have it all figured out. Like a pastor said, we all jacked up. I'm jacked up. You jacked up too, and you just want to say yes. And so if you say yes, hey, they say the angels in heaven are celebrating over your yes. And I celebrate you. But I also want you to let me know. Reach out to me. Let's connect on all one Nurse across any other platform, social media platforms, or DM me, because this is a special moment if you've given the Lord your yes on Good Friday. So, and don't forget to scoop up the new All1 Nurse Starter Kit. It's free, it's for you. And I've also created a first Shift with God Guide. Totally up to you to grab that one. But if nothing else, as a new nurse, as an aspiring nurse, go ahead and download the first the All1 Nurse Starter Kit. Free All1 Nurse Starter Kit and until next time, as always, let your light shine.
