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[00:00:00] Speaker A: This is the All1Nerds podcast where we are bridging the gap between the stethoscope and the soul and getting back to the human side of healthcare.
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[00:00:37] Speaker A: And we are continuing to let our light shine through supporting new nurses and nursing students by sharing the compassionate nursing journeys of other nurses to help bridge the gap between the stethoscope and the soul. And in today's episode, I'm joined by Dr. Samantha Calhoun, who has her PhD and she's also a registered nurse. School's journey is marked by resilience, grace, and a deep commitment to serving others. From clinical challenges to spiritual breakthroughs, Samantha opens up about what it means to lead with purpose in and out of scrubs. She's a clinical assistant professor for a nursing program here in the Mid south area, co founder of Faith Works llc, and she shares her heart for God through her Simply Faith messages on social media.
And you'll learn more about this as well. In the episode, we'll explore how Sam's faith has shaped her nursing practice, the lessons she's teaching our next generation of nurses, the moments that reminded her why she chose this path, and her invaluable advice to nursing students.
So whether you're a student, seasoned nurse, or somewhere in between, this conversation will steer your spirit and strengthen your calling. But before we dive in, I would love for you to go ahead and subscribe to the all on Earth podcast on Apple, Spotify, Google, wherever you're tuning in from, or YouTube because these conversations are changing lives.
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[00:02:47] Speaker B: Thank you, Chanel, for having me. I'm so excited to be here.
[00:02:50] Speaker A: Yes, ma'. Am. I'm glad I finally got you on here. Yes, yes. So, as always, tell us a little bit about you and what first inspired you to pursue nursing.
[00:03:02] Speaker B: I love this question because I find that at 12 years. No, I think it's at 11 years. I'm at 11 years in nursing now. That answer begins to evolve the more experiences that I have. But I'll start from the beginning. I've been a nurse for 11 years. My route starts started with the BSN first, so got my Bachelor's in Nursing first, straight out of high school, I went to college, and that was my first entry point into nursing. From there, I decided, based on my experiences in nursing school, that's when the spark to become a nurse educator, it was lit for me. So I knew that I wanted to go and pursue my master's degree because I was just so inspired by a lot of my nursing professors. And so I, I earned my master's in nursing education, adult health. From there, my mentors, they poured into me, and I shared with them that I'm interested in pursuing my doctoral education. At that time, I was trying to decide between the DNP and a PhD. And so when I started to learn about some of the differences, I quickly discovered that research is something that I was interested in pursuing. And so that's when I went on to finish my PhD. And so now we're here, still in academia. Most of my nursing career has been in academia, and now I am entering into the world of nursing research. And so I'm just excited about where this journey is taking me. And so my inspiration to getting into nursing, just a little bit about my background. I'm a first gen nurse, first gen college grad, all the things. But I would say that first spark happened with my mom. My mom was a nursing assistant.
And just hearing how she talked about some of the nurses that she worked with and just the community that she grew up in, because she was in. She started out at 19 as a nursing assistant, and so she grew up with a lot of the nurses and they poured into her. And just that nurturing relationship was something that I remembered her talking about. And so that was that first spark to say, hey, this is something I think I may want to do for myself.
[00:05:12] Speaker A: Awesome. Now we got to go back because you said you did your bsn.
Now, what were some of the challenges that you faced coming through nursing school that you would like to share with us?
[00:05:24] Speaker B: Absolutely. And I'm so transparent about my challenges because I want to normalize it, especially for your audience. I know that you're geared a lot towards nursing students, and I want them to hear this. So my first challenge started before I even got into nursing school. I went out, I applied, and at that time, we had to take a nursing interest exam. And I failed that exam the first time. I didn't make the scores that were required for the program, and I had to reapply. I tried to go and take the test the second time, and I didn't pass then.
Damn. Yes.
And so I said, okay. God, what is this? Yeah.
All of my prereqs, I made A's in my sciences. All the things that they told me to do, I did it. And everything was lining up except for that one thing, which was the entrance exam. And so on my third attempt, of course, that was when God and I, we had a conversation. I said, look, I made it this far. Yeah, I'm a need for you to help me. And so that's when I figured out that I never will forget. It was just like you and I talking right now. God said, in order for you to be successful in this program, you cannot depend on your smarts, your intelligence, your study habits. You're gonna have to depend on me. And so at that point, that's when I first learned that I needed to invite God into this experience with me. And so I did. I started it increased my prayer life. I said, okay, God, I'm gonna do this with you. So I started to seek him and he started showing me how to study and how to trust him. And so at that point, that's when I passed the exam the third time and was subsequently admitted into the program.
That's before I even got into the program.
[00:07:13] Speaker A: Wow, that sounds like, like God is like before you even take off, let, let's, let's see me as your source when you do get that degree instead of saying, look what I did, look what God did so that he can get all the honor. And so I love that. Thank you for sharing that. And one thing I do want to point out for my listener is a prerequisite of what you. When you said prereqs, it just means the courses that are required prior to getting into the nursing program. And so there are certain courses. So I did want to make sure I mentioned that because you have so many young people like, okay, what's a prereqs? What's a this? When I started at a community college, no one told me about the prereqs, even though I told once I explained to my advisor that I wanted to do nursing school. She was like, oh, you have to take microbiology A and P. And so I had to squeeze all these classes in my last semester for my associate's degree. And so thankfully it worked out. So I do want to point that out what a prerequisite is, but thank you for sharing that. And so then you get into the program and I know that you've spoken openly about overcoming self doubt and fear of not being enough. And as a first gen, like, how did you navigate those feelings coming through nursing school and what Advice would you give to others that's facing those similar struggles?
[00:08:36] Speaker B: That's a great question.
That's a great question. I think to begin answering that question is what I now know is what was the source of that? And so through work, and I'm not going to say that this was a self discovery process for myself. I actually had to go through therapy and prayer and to unpack some of those sources of not feeling like I was enough. But it started in childhood. I was a gifted student, good grades, and for, for me that was in some way was shaping my identity. My identity was in, somehow shaped and connected to how well I performed academically. And so when you take a person who they base their entire self worth, their self identity on their achievements and how well they do in this one area. For me, when I struggled in nursing school, I thought that there was something.
[00:09:28] Speaker A: Was wrong with me.
[00:09:30] Speaker B: And so one of the things that I would say in unpacking that now is that you're more than what you make on a, on an exam. You're more than how you perform in clinical. That's just a small part of who you are. And there's always going to be this learning curve when it comes to nursing. But I compare myself too much. I compare, that's, that's, that's why I want to land with that, that not feeling enough comparison. Comparing myself to other students, comparing myself to how well I did maybe in another class. Like it was always this internal pressure to prove to myself that I belonged in that space.
I just didn't know enough. You know, I didn't have a person to lay out the blueprint and tell me that, okay, this is what you're going to go through. This is normal. If you struggle here, it's no indication of who you are as a person. It's just a part of the process.
I didn't know that, so I had to figure that out on my own.
[00:10:27] Speaker A: That's good, and I'm glad you said that because it's like when it comes to their, to students confidence level, it's like swayed based off a result. So if you fail, check off something that you've never did before, if you fail that one, check off doing a glucose check, then it's like, oh, am I really cut out for this? No, that just means you failed. So you need to do something differently to make sure you understand the process of how to safely check a blood glucose on a patient. But sometimes we can snipe ourselves and then comparing ourselves to our nursing peers and you know, Some people do get caught up in the. The grades and what they made and all that. And it's like, truthfully, it doesn't matter as long as you're passing. Like, yes, you want to make the best grade, but. And it's not even about passing. It's about which it is. Cause you gotta pass to be successful. But it's about understanding the material. It's about understanding what you're learning when it comes to nursing. But you're in academia specifically, so I'll let you talk more toward that.
[00:11:29] Speaker B: I wanna say something in addition to that is I think it goes back to how I started, right? God was trying to show me that it's not gonna be this. This how you make it through this is not gonna be based off of your way of how you evaluate what success looks like. And so that's good. I had my own metrics. It was based purely on grades. It was based purely because that's all I knew, you know, that that is something that I wish somebody would have just set me down. Like how we know we can look back now and say, hey, it's not going to matter about the grades. When you're standing at the bedside with the patient, your level of understanding, it actually evolves more once you finish. What, Once you complete your degree program, it's gonna evolve the more experience that you get.
[00:12:17] Speaker A: That's true. That's good. That's good.
Now, how does your faith and upbringing influence the way you lead, teach and serve now? Just going forward.
[00:12:27] Speaker B: So I always go back to that beginning. That was that first pivotal moment for me. In the beginning. Oh, I was gonna say in the beginning was the word.
[00:12:38] Speaker A: And it was.
Yeah.
And it was good.
[00:12:43] Speaker B: Don't get me started. Okay, definitely good. It was good for me that I. That I suffered. But I. The faith part, definitely. It kicked in in the beginning when God showed me that, okay, you're not. You cannot depend on you, Sam. You're going to have to depend on me. And so that's when I started to learn how to include God in my academics and in my goals. And so we go through the first part of me struggling to get in, but then we have that breakthrough moment of when I actually get into the program and I passed the first semester and I'm like, okay, God, we did it. Yes, we did it. Thank you for showing me that I could do this and overcome. I'm supposed to be here. That first semester was proof that. All right, Sam, you were supposed to be here. Nursing is.
This is what you were put on this earth to do. I went back to my default. I depended on the fact that I passed that first semester. And I went back to leaning on my own success again. And then second semester happened. When I tell you every class that could be borderline failing, that was every class.
So can you imagine walking that tight of a rope in the second semester of nursing school? And that's when it kind of gets turned up. You're doing clinicals. At that time, the stakes were so high, and I found myself in another crisis, like, okay, God was like, I have to make this tight for you because where you're going, you need me every step of the way.
[00:14:21] Speaker A: Okay. I paused this episode to bring you a faith filled nurse note called titled appalls for the heart. And my scripture today comes from Ecclesiastes, chapter 3, verse 11, which says, he has made everything beautiful in his time. So, dear nurse, in the middle of your shift, your studies or your self, doubt, pause, breathe, Remember that your journey is not random, is divinely timed. You were not called to nursing by accident. You were chosen to be a vessel of healing, compassion and light. And Dr. Samantha Calhoun reminds us that purpose is not just found in titles or credentials. It's found in how we show up and how we depend on God. In the quiet moments of care, in the quiet courage to keep going, in the faith to believe that even when you feel unseen, God sees you. So today, let this note be your reminder. You belong. You are equipped, you are becoming. And everything, yes, everything is being made beautiful in its time. All right, let's get back to the conversation with Dr. Sam.
[00:15:55] Speaker B: And so fast forward, that's the semester that I quit. I said, this is too much. I quit. I have. I wish I would have brought it with me, but I have my letter that I emailed the dean and I said, thank you. Thank you for the opportunity, but this is not what I want to do with my life. And so because I was so afraid to fail that I needed to get myself out of this because I. I couldn't imagine failing. And so to prevent myself from facing that reality, I just quit before.
That was the only response I knew to do.
[00:16:31] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: And the story would have it is I'm going into the office with the associate dean at the time, thinking that she was going to process my paperwork to help me to, you know, declare another major and officially withdraw from the nursing program. She prayed for me. She said, I don't usually do this, but something is telling me that you. You. You're making. This isn't the right choice that you need to make in this moment. My mind was already made up, Chanel. I said, okay, I hear what you're saying, but there's no way that I'm gonna be able to pass. I prayed, went to church that Sunday. She said, just think about it. I'm gonna hold on to this paperwork. Just think about it. Just go and come back and meet. Can you just promise me that you're going to meet with me on Monday? I said, okay, I'll do it. I was already convinced that I was not going to go back, Chanel. I was like, that's it. I'm done. I actually was going to go and pursue social work. I said, I'll go be. You know, I can go to social work. I'm still helping people. So anyways, I go to church that Sunday, and I said, I was just feeling so low. I said, God, I need to hear from you. I don't even know what to pray in this moment. But a woman sitting in church, she turned around, she said, I don't know you, baby. But God said that whatever it is that you praying and asking him for, he hears you and you're going to make it through whatever it is that you're struggling. I'm like, oh, my, no, I don't want to go through this. No. Wow.
Let me stop. I don't want to go through this. And so, wow.
I.
As you can tell, I went through with it. That was my sign to keep pursuing it. But I would tell you this. This is how gracious God is. He still did not let me make it through that second semester. Once I decided to keep going, I barely passed that semester. Wow. I thought that it was just going to be some miracle and that finally, you know, everything. Everything was going to start clicking and that, okay, now I'm going to see the grades that I needed to validate that, you know, my self worth.
I barely passed with a half of a point in two classes.
[00:18:37] Speaker A: Not one, but two classes, half of a point.
[00:18:41] Speaker B: They had to round up in order for me to stay, to keep going.
[00:18:45] Speaker A: Yeah, wow. But you passed. You passed, Sam. That's hard. I done told them about my first semester. I was riding on like a decibel point. I'm like, if they don't round, I'm out. And I was like, God, if this works out in my favor, it's game on. From now on, I'm gonna take it serious.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: Yes. Yes.
[00:19:07] Speaker A: And I did. I passed. And I was like, okay, everything else on the back burner. Everything else on the back burner, because you have to be all in. And I don't know what it is about the nursing program, but you have to be all in.
All in?
Yes, all in. You know, And I tell young people all the time, whoever he or she is, when you think you want a boyfriend, girlfriend, focus. You have to focus. Have to focus. And you can't. You can't put yourself in situations to where you get all the way through school, and then you can't get your license.
[00:19:40] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:40] Speaker A: Because you done got to fighting. You done.
I got a story for that, too.
[00:19:46] Speaker B: I got a story for that, too. Chanel. Listen, can you tell your sister over here needs some humble pie, obviously, because God was like, if you think you passed and you got through this, he said, I gotta do this one right here just for the road. So you talked about those state boards. I failed the first time. I was like. I said, lord, what is this now? I done struggled to get in.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: I struggled to make it through, and.
[00:20:11] Speaker B: Then you wouldn't let me get through this process to get my board. I mean, my license.
And I had to struggle through that too, man.
[00:20:21] Speaker A: And then you have to deal with the confidence building just to keep. Just to do it again.
Just to do it. It's like you already have that anxiety.
[00:20:32] Speaker B: Do you.
[00:20:33] Speaker A: What do you feel was your barrier when you took it the first time?
[00:20:38] Speaker B: I didn't believe in myself. I second guessed a lot when I got to that exam. I'm not. I'm not gonna say I'm the best test taker because I overanalyzed. That's not the best way to get to see my level of understanding. And so I just struggle with taking. Taking tests. And so I. That was. That was my biggest thing.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: Yeah. And then, of course, the options are, like, most of them are. Are good options, but you have to choose the best one.
[00:21:05] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: You have to choose the best one.
So thank you for sharing that, because a lot of times, sometimes it's like, okay, what did you do differently? So did you do tutoring or anything for the. Before taking it again, or did you just. What was your. Tell us about it first time?
[00:21:21] Speaker B: I didn't have a strategy, and so that was mistake number one. You gotta have a plan. You have to come up with a study plan, and you have to take it serious. Nursing school is gonna. It's gonna wear you out. You're gonna be so tired at the end. But it does not stop until you.
Until you sit down and pass those boards. And so I didn't have a Plan I was just exhausted. So that was mistake number one.
So the second time when I reattempted the exam, I had a strategy. I had to go to the Lord in prayer. I said, God, I need for you to give me wisdom on how to break this, break it down. And so at that time, I don't know, I don't wanna promote, promote a product. I'm not advocating for it, I'm not promoting this product. But at the time we had Hearst review and so there were test taking strategies and exam questions that I practiced. So I kind of broke down the content that I wasn' as good in and I determined that based on doing practice questions. So I saw some of the areas that I struggled with and so that's where I spent time. I think for, for 45 days straight I would study for at least the minimum, maybe was two hours, but maybe six hours a day. I was studying, doing practice questions, quizzing myself and just dedicated to getting the, the, the content. Because what I learned was even if I got a question wrong, it's important that, that it's wrong. And that was the key, that was the difference maker for me. You have to know the rationale as to why it's right, why it's wrong. So that helps.
[00:22:57] Speaker A: That's good.
I tell them, folk, it's not about how many questions you do, it's about understanding the questions you know, it's not about qua, it's not about quantity, it's about quality. Break down the few questions that you do and look at the rationale because it's going to help you with your reasoning and your critical thinking with more test questions. And so you get caught up on how many you got right or how many you got wrong. But really you need to just be reading the rationales as you're answering them. Yes, yes, yes.
Thank you for sharing that. Now just jumping right into a patient perspective. Before we get into your educational insights, you emphasize creating a safe space for early career nurses. You know, as I'm looking into your LinkedIn and just kind of reading up on you, Sam, so what does that look like in practice?
[00:23:51] Speaker B: So I'm gonna be very transparent. It's been a minute since I've served in the role as the bedside nurse taking care of patients. But my most recent experiences have been taking students to clinical. So having the opportunity to interact with my students as well as the nurses that are on the unit, I see a lot doing both, you know, juggling my patients well, but they are my patients because they're Working with my license, so the patients, the students and the staff. And so when I think about safety, I allow a certain level of mistakes to happen organically while the students are in my care. Not mistakes that'll put the patients at comfort. I'm talking about grabbing the wrong pair of socks, you know what I mean? Like.
Cause I think nursing students, they are so hard on themselves.
So hard. And I hear them say things like, well, I should have known that. I'm like, why? Why would you know that when you're here to learn? And so I normalize mistakes early on, those small mistakes so that you can learn how to bounce back quickly when you, when you're on the floor, just bounce back. Because one of the things that I find is that they, they stay stuck. And it's, it's a, I did something wrong or I'm not smart enough or I should have known this. And they pointed themselves when. It's just a natur of the learning process. And so allowing them rooms, allowing them room to process their mistakes. Learn from it, learn from each other, learn from the nurses on the unit. And we do a lot of that processing so that they don't leave clinical thinking that it's them. It's not you, you, you're learning. So, yeah, just so they can adapt. That mindset of I'm going to continuously have to learn and I'm not going to know everything.
[00:25:38] Speaker A: Yes. And it sounds like you're, you're, you're helping them build some resilience as well as they're learning, you know, how to do things well and make those mistakes. It's like you're teaching them. You can't stay stuck there. Like, you have to, okay, what did I do wrong? What do I need to do differently? And okay, let me continue to work on what it is that I need to be working on.
Because a lot of times when they get stuck in this rut, it snipes them from the whole experience. Because they're stuck.
[00:26:08] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:26:09] Speaker A: On grabbing the wrong socks.
Like, bring it back, it's okay, let's go eat. Let's go back.
You know, I'm telling you, and I love how you mentioned that as a clinical instructor, you know, these are your patients, so you're still practicing whether you're clock, you're not clocking in at that organization, but those students are riding on your license. And that's what I would tell them when I did my little short span of clinicals. And I love the students, but like now, I think that a lot of programs May not. You can tell me whether y' all do this or not, but you remember we had to, like, pre assess our patients. Like, we had to go in the night before, the evening before, and then come in the next day, be up all night writing out the care plan, the medications, and you better know everything about that patient. Everything about that patient. And so I think it's a little different now. But I remember telling my students at the time, I'm like, hey, you got one patient. But if I got seven students, I got seven patients. Y' all are on my license. So I expect you to come in prepared so that I can keep my license. I'm just saying. I know they thought I was crazy, but I did have one student. She said, Ms. Tompkins, she said, you don't intimidate me, but I do feel like I don't want to let you down.
And I was like, that's so sweet. I said, that's so sweet. Because I tell them. I used to tell them, I'm not here to intimidate you. Yeah, you're here to learn. And I want you to learn. I want us to be able to have a conversation. But I am going to hold you to a certain standard.
[00:27:49] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: And I expect you to hold me to one as well. And, I mean, this was like being pregnant. One clinical group didn't even know I was pregnant. They saw me the next semester. They was like, Ms. Tompkins, that's why you ate noodles every time. We thought that was a lot of sauce, not the noodles. Yeah. They said, that explains why you ate noodles every time. I was like, yeah, I didn't want y' all to think I was weak. That's why I told them.
Cause I was on time. I didn't really have nausea anyway. But I just tell them, like, hey, I'm not here to intimidate you. Because for one, once they get through that nursing program, and if you still practice at the bedside or even as you become a patient, we're going to be. I'm no longer going to be above you. We're going to be lateral. And now just watching them come into the hospital, some. Those nurses have been working for years now. And I was like, oh, my God, it's been that long. They're married with children. And I look at them, I'm like, what did I tell you? We're going to be working side by side one day. So I'm not here to intimidate you. I want you to learn. So I love that. I love that you create a space of safety for them. Because they need to know that.
[00:28:57] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:28:57] Speaker A: They need to know that and not feel like they're less than or that you're better than, like, no, no more than you do.
[00:29:07] Speaker B: At least I know how to go look it up, you know, I know where to go to get the answer. Yeah.
[00:29:12] Speaker A: I am very resourceful.
[00:29:14] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:29:15] Speaker A: But I want to create a space where the learning and the teaching is reciprocal. Because they'll teach us something too.
[00:29:22] Speaker B: Yes. And you know, I'm glad that you said that because that's a part of the safety. This is. This is bi directional. I'm learning from you just as much as you learn it from me. And I say you. I tell my students every time I give them a list, like I journal. And so I'll give them a list of things that I learned from them at the end of the semester. And another thing is too, that I don't believe in hoarding information. And so some things, sometimes what I do at the end of a clinical, I make them write down on the index card. Give some advice to the students that's coming behind you because they need to learn from you, from your perspective. Like, I want you to be able to share. And then also to modeling to these future nurses is that don't hold on to information if you know it. It's meant to be shared. And it's not to show how wise you are or how super nurse you are. Nursing is a team sport.
[00:30:14] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:30:15] Speaker B: It's a team sport. We cannot do it alone. You're going to need somebody, and most importantly, somebody's going to need you. And so just modeling that for them, that's how we keep that ecosystem of learning.
[00:30:26] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:30:26] Speaker B: At the forefront.
[00:30:27] Speaker A: Yeah. And it helps build everyone up. I think that's what I love about it. Like, when you're not gatekeeping, it helps everyone involved. And I tell staff all the time that at the end of the day, the bottom line is the patient, that person that. That has one life.
[00:30:44] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:30:44] Speaker A: That's our. Everything that we do affects that patient.
[00:30:50] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:30:50] Speaker A: Everything. Everything that we do, whether we have a license or not, everything that's being done in that hospital, in that health care setting is affecting the consumer, which is a patient.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:31:01] Speaker A: Yes. This is not putting, you know, making a sandwich the wrong way. This is not a fast food restaurant. This is somebody's life.
[00:31:08] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:31:09] Speaker A: You know, so thank you. Thank you for sharing that. Okay. What are some of the common challenges, Sam, that you feel that new nurses face that aren't addressed in traditional education?
[00:31:21] Speaker B: Great question. First Thing that came to my mind is now I think we've kind of restructured nursing education and preparing them for nursing practice at the bedside.
I don't think we prepare them for the level of work that they're actually going to be doing.
And we've evolved in a lot of ways, but I don't think that role identity is something that we still struggle with preparing them for. And there's gonna be that because they're novice. Right. They're advanced beginners as these generalists that are newly licensed and they get out into the real world. And so there's a process of developing that role identity. But I think some, a lot of people still don't know who we are as nurses. They don't know what we do, they don't know who we are. And I think it's a lot because we don't know who we are in some sense. And so what I think what we lack in traditional education, especially at the pre licensure level, is not creating opportunities for them to function in their role as a nurse. That's why I think stimulation is so important and really stressing to students when we're doing stimulations, giving them simulations that really stimulate what their role is. Not the student nurse, not the nursing assistant, but the nurse. You're responsible in all those different facets of what you will be responsible for as you're functioning in that role. I think that that's something that we need to do more of to get them. To get them comfortable with being in the driver's seat. Yeah, because one of the things that I do not like, and I hear often when I go to some healthcare settings, I hear the nurses say, you know, a patient may ask a question or family member may ask a question. And the nurse says, well, I don't know. You know, I get that you don't know, but nurse, this is your patient. There's a way for you. Obviously there's a communication gap there that we stand in the middle of, that we can help facilitate all the key players that's involved in that patient's care to get this family or this patient an answer. And so I think, because I'm real passionate about this, is that helping to put them in the driver's seat and for them to really understand you are the leader here and you're responsible for more than just tasks.
[00:33:34] Speaker A: Yes, that's good. I think you just hit the nail on the head with that because I think even with the electronic mars now, you know, they want to get that green check mark and so if you have a preceptor that's task oriented, they're going to train task oriented nurses.
[00:33:52] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:33:53] Speaker A: And so it was like, how do I get this task done?
And they kind of miss the holistic part of the care that they need to. That the patient needs to receive.
And. Yeah, I love that. I love that you brought that up. That's good.
[00:34:07] Speaker B: That's so good. You brought. You made me think about my own preceptor. And if she. If she ever watches this, I'm gonna just go. I'm not gonna say her name. She didn't care if I knew skills or not. She challenged me on my thought process. She was tough. She was tough. Everybody look. They thought she was so mean. I did, too. I was like, please don't put me with her. But that was the best thing that happened for my career because she was a thinker. She always wanted to be ahead of the doctor. She wanted to be ahead. She wanted to anticipate needs, and she taught me how to do that. And so that takes me back to an area where I think that we don't. Where there's a huge gap is how we train preceptors to precept.
I don't think we give them enough training to be able to help them to start to develop, you know, that identity. There's a gap in how we train preceptors. They're, in part, they're educators. Yeah, they're educators. So. Yeah.
[00:35:04] Speaker A: Yeah. And I think there's so much. It's like an. I don't want to say an assembly line per se, but it's like there's another part of that equation because the preceptors, when we talk about workload, the workload is already hard. So then it's like, okay, I already gotta get this task done. I'll tell you about this later. But if the day was rough later, we might not talk about that later. It's gonna be, oh, I can't wait to get home, you know? So I think there's so much that goes into it so that we can really give everybody a little bit of what they need to make them more functional and more effective. But I love that you basically mentioned nurse driven care by putting the nurses, like, getting back to being in that front seat, like, you are the driver. And one thing that even providers may mention is that when I'm asking about how new nurses are doing, like some of the newer nurses, and they'll say, well, you've been getting. I get phone calls all Night. And these are phone calls about things that may already be ordered. Prn.
And so can you imagine being woken up about something that's very minor or it may be something very major, but you're beyond a phone call. Like, you may need to page mrt, right. The rapid response team. You may want to page the rapid response team. And so it's things like that that it's like, okay, as nurses, how do we teach them to be thinkers and to anticipate. Anticipate your care. Anticipate your care. I used to break down my 12 hour shifts into, into four hour increments.
[00:36:41] Speaker B: YouTube.
[00:36:42] Speaker A: Yes, girl, that's a long time. I used to break it out in four hour increments. I could do anything for four hours. Me too. Maybe that's the holy spirit friend.
[00:36:51] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:36:52] Speaker A: But I can do anything for four hours now. You know?
Yes, yes, yes ma'. Am. I would break it down into four hour increments. But I will also inform my patients like first thing in the morning you're going to know if you're my patient. Hey, who I am. I'm getting report. I'm about to pass meds. I'm matter of fact, I'm about to get a cup of coffee and sit down and look at the charts do and looking if they can have coffee. Would you like some? If not, you'll, you know, I'm gonna be at the desk and then I'm start passing meds at this time. Between this time frame, I may start in here but based off report I may have to start somewhere else. I change dresses after lunch. Like I just let them know what I'm projecting this day to look like. And Lord's willing, I'm here till seven and we go from there. And they think you're the best person ever. All because you communicated.
[00:37:40] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:37:41] Speaker A: Yep. All because you communicated and invited them into their own care. You inform them of what the day looks like with you.
[00:37:49] Speaker B: Yes, yes.
[00:37:50] Speaker A: I love patient care. I do. I can't really miss it on the personal level, but I know God has called me to do something different right now.
And nothing is wasted. God can sometimes put us in a position to where you still affect the bottom line, which is the patient. And it's through education for us. So it's like you're still doing what needs to be done, but just from a different, from a different area of nursing of what's needed. So I'm okay with that. I'm like, okay, God, okay, you sound like me.
[00:38:30] Speaker B: I miss, I miss that.
[00:38:31] Speaker A: Yes, Yes. I want to say we've done our time, which I can always go back if, you know, if the season allow. If a season comes up that allows me to. With this. Because, of course, I got small kids at the time of this recording. But if time allows. Hey, put me out there on a Sunday afternoon. Look, you're on Sunday afternoon. I want princess hours. I want 11 to 7.
[00:38:53] Speaker B: Let's get them ready. They got. They're gonna. They about to go home tomorrow. Okay. We'll keep you tucked in and Good. They gonna make their rounds tomorrow, get you out of here.
[00:39:02] Speaker A: Well, let me go to church. Let me go to first service, and then I'll come and I'll hang out with y'. All. I'll even do 11 to 11.
[00:39:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Just saying.
[00:39:11] Speaker A: I'm just saying. Okay, now I have a bonus question for you, because since I've done this, I've gotten some really good feedback from all my wonderful guests. And so if you can speak directly to a nursing student who feels like they don't belong, whether because of race, background, or self doubt, what would you say to remind them of their worth and their place in this profession?
[00:39:38] Speaker B: Great question. First thing that came to mind, because that was me. That was me. So I'm gonna talk. I'm gonna talk. Talk to baby Sam.
[00:39:44] Speaker A: Yep.
[00:39:45] Speaker B: Girl who told you that? Or person who told you that? Who. What proof do you have? And so we'll start there. I need to see concrete.
Concrete evidence, and I need to see some facts, and I need to see. You have to make it make sense to me that this is a factual statement. That what this. Cause it's a thought. It's a thought that you're feeding yourself and that you're telling yourself. So we will have to put that thought down on paper because I want you to see outside of yourself how untrue this is. And so I would have to mirror it back to them so that they.
[00:40:18] Speaker A: Can see that that's good. You like? Hey, where's the facts in that? Where's the facts in that? I have a counselor that. I call her my counselor because she's helped me a lot in my own personal growth. But she'll. She would call it stinking thinking. And she said, you have to throw that away. You have to throw that type of thinking away. And I've also heard on another podcast interview, and he basically was like, you have to ask yourself, who better than me?
Like, you are you are you. Nobody else can be you. So who better than you to do whatever it is that you're trying to do whatever your goal is, whatever the vision is or the passion that you have, who better than you to do it? And when you be. When you end up in those rooms or when you're in a room, just know there's something that you bring to the room that nobody else can bring because you're in it.
[00:41:12] Speaker B: Yep. Yes.
Yes.
[00:41:15] Speaker A: Okay, so I'm gonna share it with y', all, but I thought that was good. Who. So next time you have that stinking thinking and you write it down and you see that it's a thought and not a fact, because you don't have any facts to back it up and ask yourself, who better than me? Who better than me? And I'm gonna put a link to the podcast in the description below, or I'm gonna share it on social media, because again, it's not about gatekeeping. It's about, if it helped me, I know that it's gonna help someone else.
[00:41:45] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. Yes.
[00:41:47] Speaker A: Okay, so just jumping right into your educational insights, Sam. Tell us more about your purpose and your current roles that you have.
[00:41:55] Speaker B: Hey, let's start down the list. So we'll start. Start with professional. So professionally, I'm a professor of nursing, and I'm currently serving in a tenure track role in a nursing college of nursing. And so right now, my role is to develop a program of research. I am looking at improving communication practices for black men with hypertension to help them, to empower them, to engage with their health care through shared decision making. I believe in the power of communications.
Patients should be able to know.
They should be able to understand. It's not that they lack awareness, as you can probably, you know, men, they. They can tell you what the blood pressure is supposed to be and all of that. So it's not that they have a lack of knowledge. I think is them being able to truly internalize it in a level where they can understand, to do something about it, to be proactive. So. And I think we have reduced that medical encounter to a lack of substance between these patients and these providers. And we. We can't neglect the importance of communication. So right now I'm looking into ways to improve the communication spaces between black men, particularly with hypertension, through shared decision making.
[00:43:18] Speaker A: All right, awesome.
[00:43:20] Speaker B: Thank you. And that's where my current research is. And I'm new to this space, so I'm learning. I'm in a learning, learning phase with this part of my career. Still academia, but I still teach. But the focus has become more on the research side. And teaching, teaching is still a component of that, me being a professor, but it's kind of has changed. And I will just say this, I miss being a clinical instructor. I miss my pre licensure students. I miss them so much. But my purpose now I'm teaching on the graduate side is pouring into our future leaders. So I teach in the master's program at my college. And so it's just seeing, seeing these new leaders start to bud and challenging their thinking to think at this level and systems level and just seeing those aha moments start to take shape and form. So I'm finding purpose in that.
And so that's what I do on my 9 to 5. But service is work for me. I serve in a lot of different roles. I serve with my husband and his non profit STS Enterprise where we focus on preparing young people for careers and getting them ready for the workforce. So career readiness, workforce development and leadership development for college students and being playing a huge role in developing that program for students here in our local area. And then also I serve simply Faith. That's a ministry that the Lord birthed through me through my struggles in nursing school. So remember I told you I had to learn how to trust God in every area of my life and he used my academics and my career to shape the level of faith that gets his attention. And so this ministry, it serves at the nexus of education and empowerment. So I want to empower believers to believe. I think we know God, we trust God, but sometimes we don't believe it for ourselves, we'll believe it for other people, but it's hard for us to believe it for ourselves. So God, he'll give me wisdom and different insights to share via my blog.
And so I serve by pouring out my heart and sharing my faith journey with community. Then also I serve my husband and I, we have a company, faithworks, where we consult with. I don't like calling them small businesses because these people, they come to us with these really big huge life changing ideas and ministries and organizations that we partner with them to help them to work out some of the kinks in their business and get them started to keep them moving forward. We, we try to help people to get unstuck. So we partner with them in strategy, providing resources to get them up and started to keep them going.
[00:46:15] Speaker A: So yeah, that's awesome. Man servant leader is what I hear.
You're definitely a servant leader. Like nursing already requires a lot of serving and like you said, you're just serving from a different, from a different space now. But what you're doing is it's just going to trickle down back to the patient.
[00:46:36] Speaker B: Yep.
[00:46:37] Speaker A: When you're teaching in this master's prepared level and you're. And one thing I learned, one thing I loved, and like you said, you have these aha moments as you go into higher education is that you get to see the grand scheme of things. Or even in nursing, when I left the bedside to get into staff development, it's like, okay, this is why policies and procedures are. Or guidelines are so important. And in showing up to help make these decisions. And my hopes is that more people that's actually being affected by the decisions are able to show up or have a voice. When you have others that have great ideas, we still have to work on the implementation phase, like, who all is it going to affect? And have conversations with them. And of course, it's hard to change things. Some people do not embrace change. But when you have honest, open and transparent conversations, then you're able to answer the questions of, what about this, what about that? And then you can actually say, oh, this is going to make this process even better, because we're going to do it this way instead of.
And so that's a whole nother conversation. But I do love just being in a space. Even though we're not at the bedside anymore, we're in a space to have more influence on how things are affected.
[00:47:56] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
[00:47:58] Speaker A: In the healthcare system and just podcasting, like, y' all have shown me just the importance of policy changes. And I'm like, like going to Capitol Hill and I'm like, y' all know I got these kids, right? You know, my husband gonna be like, where you at? You know, I just can't pack up and just go support at this time.
At this time.
[00:48:19] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:48:20] Speaker A: But support you by getting you on this podcast and letting you share your journey, share the experience, share what we need to hear and what we can do as nurses who really want to see the nursing profession and healthcare thrive.
Because I think a lot of times it starts. It's not a lot of times. Anytime it starts with the individual, like, I have to be willing to do the right thing. I have to want things to be better. Nobody has. You don't have to create a rule or manage me in a way or provide so many staff members like it. Like, yes, having enough staff is great, but we all know that sometimes you can have a short staff, but depending on who you working with, you have the best shift.
[00:49:10] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:49:12] Speaker A: So it's all about mindset, wanting to show up, wanting to work, have, show up. Like my pastor would say, show up on time with a good attitude and get something done.
[00:49:23] Speaker B: Yes. You know, that was that aha moment for me six months into nursing because I was struggling. I said, lord, you gotta help me now. You see, I was struggling, just struggling, just struggling. Look. And so I was walking down the hall, I was night shift working, and it was an aha moment. God said, if you make it about these patients, everything you do here is not about you.
You clocked out a home life and all this stuff. Once you swiped that badge in and once I shifted my mind to let me serve these patients, let me serve my teammates, it made it that much more rewarding. And you really, it didn't matter what was going on. It's like, okay, just show up and do my job and do it well. I get to go home. Even on my worst day, I get to go home.
[00:50:08] Speaker A: Yep.
Yes. Yes. And that's why I'm, I'm very bubbly. But I am, I have situational awareness where I know everybody is not as conversational in the morning. I know my, my peers who need a strong cup of. Cup of coffee and breakfast, but you know, and then you come in, you talk to them after 9:30.
[00:50:29] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:50:29] Speaker A: Here's what it is. I respect that. But man, I tell you, it's like, I don't work because I love going. I love to go see my work family, I love to go see patients. And even now I was telling someone, I'll drop my kids off at daycare or dropping them off at before school care. And I'm speaking to all the other parents, like, good morning. Have a good day. How you doing, Queen?
That's what my. I call my counselor. She'll sometimes call us queen. And you know, that's very uplifting. Yeah. When it comes to work, we're working majority of our lives, regardless if you're working for yourself, which I've heard and I'm learning as an entrepreneur, is that it's.
[00:51:13] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:51:14] Speaker A: It's just as hard. So whether you're working for yourself or working for someone else, it is work. So you might as well do something that you love and even if it's not your purpose, because for some people it may just be a job.
[00:51:27] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:51:27] Speaker A: But still aim to do it with excellence. Want to do it. Do something that you truly want to do because you're giving a lot of your time to whatever that thing is. If it's something that you're passionate about, then that's awesome too. And for me, you know, I'm very passionate about taking care of others or how others are treated. And so for me, it's not a job. Now, we would get our tails whooped. Majority of the time, I'm excited to come in.
[00:51:53] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:51:54] Speaker A: And regardless of what I get in report. Okay. I tell the patients, it's a new day.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: It's a new day. I'm here. What's up?
[00:52:00] Speaker A: What are we gonna do? I'm gonna tell you.
[00:52:02] Speaker B: I prayed in that parking lot. I prayed on walking down that long hallway to get. I prayed when. Matter of fact, let me be real. I was praying while I was getting report. Oh, my God.
[00:52:11] Speaker A: In the name.
[00:52:12] Speaker B: Listen, we gonna have a good day. I don't care what you told me about X, Y, and Z, it ain't gonna happen on my. Why, yes.
[00:52:19] Speaker A: Look, I was just telling the class, earlier, I said, now I can be a little petty. I'll say, if they had, like, a bad night or something, I may say, describe them to me. When they say they had, like, a bad staff member or nurse, I'm like, describe them to me what they look like.
But I always tell. But depending on who it is, I would say, you know, now, they may not be social, but they could take care of me any day.
[00:52:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:52:46] Speaker A: And then the family member is like, like, like, okay, okay. I'm like, I'm telling you, they not social, but they could take care of me any day if I had to be in this room. And then if I don't have anything nice to say, I'd just be like, I don't know who you talking about. I don't know if I know who you talking about.
[00:53:03] Speaker B: I like that.
[00:53:04] Speaker A: Because if you don't have anything nice to say, you probably shouldn't say it at all.
[00:53:09] Speaker B: I liked it. Yep.
[00:53:11] Speaker A: Because patience will tell on you.
[00:53:13] Speaker B: I'm just saying, listen, they may not.
[00:53:16] Speaker A: Tell you to your face, but they gonna tell the next person that come in.
[00:53:20] Speaker B: They will.
[00:53:20] Speaker A: Yeah, they will. Especially the older patients. They'll tell on you in a minute. Okay, now, as we're talking about educational insights, Sam, I do have to ask this question. How can nursing programs better integrate cultural humility and inclusive communication?
Because I can tell you're big on communication, even in the patient care realm, but just getting back to academia, so.
[00:53:45] Speaker B: Thank you for this question.
I heard it in one way. I'm big on language, so I hear. I heard it in one way, so I want to start with answering it how I heard it.
[00:53:54] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:53:56] Speaker B: Being more the cultural humility piece is one thing. That I truly believe in. You can't listen and talk at the same time.
And so that's good. Listening is one of the most humbling things that you can do, that you can slow down and truly try to understand the person that is sitting across from you or whatever the case may be. And as we bring it back to nursing, I think it's important that we truly try to understand, for us as educators, the students that are coming into our programs, let's understand them. Nursing doesn't look one way. There's so many people with so many different talents and perspectives and life experiences that can truly make a difference in our healthcare system. I'll just take it beyond nursing that they're our future leaders. And so whatever view that we have or whatever picture that we may have as educators or what a nurse is, I would challenge us to expand our viewpoint on that and listen. Being open to hearing them, but more importantly, being open to seeing them. And I think if we put that into practice of seeing our students, and I'll just say give examples of. Don't always go for the student who is more forward with their questions, and they're more vocal. Pay attention to those quiet ones too, you know, because they may process information different, appealing to different learning styles and just doing it puts more on us as educators and academic leaders to make sure that we see them. We admitted them into our program. If they made it to the point of being in our program, their perspective deserves to be acknowledged and respected. Whether we believe or agree with it or not, it's our job to help cultivate the professional identity of these future nurses. So it's important for us to see them and meet them where they are. And as we model that, they'll model that for their patients, and then they can pass it forward to their fellow peers. Because whether we want care to admit it or not, they're going to be promoted into leadership.
If we don't intercept them in nursing school before they get out into the real world, whatever they picked up along the way that we had a hand in and that we didn't try to stop, to shape and to mold, they're gonna pass that on, and it's just gonna keep perpetuating itself. If it's a bad practice, it's gonna keep perpetuating itself. So we have to not be afraid to address things when we see it. And I think that puts a lot of pressure on us as academic leaders, but it's important. We can't ignore it.
[00:56:33] Speaker A: We can't. Well, that's all first of all, you said quite a bit, even just starting out with whatever picture that we have in our minds of what a nurse looks like. Like we have to, okay, first of all, get rid of that thought and actually listen to and see the student for who they are and be open minded, basically. And I love that you said you can't listen and talk at the same time. So. And one thing that we do try to teach in class is don't listen to respond.
Just listen. Just listen. Especially when they're, when you're dealing with a patient or with a student who may have some challenges. Sometimes you, sometimes, you know, some communication is what they're not saying is what they're saying. That's outside of what we're actually sitting here discussing. But they have to, they have to feel like they being, they're being heard before they even open up to what the real.
Yes, you said a lot. And then I just love how you said cultivate them or intercept. I love that because it makes me think about children. Like we're talking about a new young generation of nurses that's about to come out into the field. And so if you don't intercept, just like with children, if you see behaviors that need to be addressed, temper tantrums, if we're not addressing those early on, at 3 and 4 years old, 5 years old, then guess what, they become 10 years old, 13 years old, 20 years old, still having temper tantrums because nobody addressed it.
And so like you said, it just, it's not going to help them first and foremost. And just flipping back over to nursing is not going to help those involved if we're not cultivating them in a positive way.
[00:58:20] Speaker B: Yes, yeah. Yes. We have the influence, you know, in academia and I know I put a lot on us, but so much happens in a nursing program that shapes and mo. You will not forget your experience.
And so really, really owning that power that we have is educators. This is the time now to do some cultivating. This is where they learn. This is where we model the tenets of our profession that we're so recognizable for.
[00:58:47] Speaker A: Yes, yes, and truly get back to. And I know nursing is still known for the most trusted profession. So it's like we. Let's keep that title of being the most trusted profession and walking in integrity and with compassion and all the things. Now as we wrap up this episode, what advice do you have for nursing students and new nurses?
[00:59:11] Speaker B: So the one piece of advice that I would have is that you need a mentor. You need to identify somebody that you can see yourself in and work on trying to cultivate a relationship with them. You need a mentor and you also need a sponsor. And just for our audience, so they'll know the difference. A mentor is somebody that they create space for you to process emotionally, to help you kind of unpack issues.
Sponsors are those ones that they see something in you and they mention your name in rooms that you may not have the opportunity to be in the room, but that's the difference between advancing in your career or not. And I just have to give kudos to the mentors in my career, but especially the sponsors who stuck their neck out for me and said, give this young lady an opportunity. So you need that. You need a mentor. You need a sponsor.
[01:00:03] Speaker A: I love that. A mentor, someone that you can be like, said you can let out your emotions with. And then a sponsor, someone that who's going to take your name into rooms and spaces that you're not even in. And I love it because your mentor is going to help guide you and build you up. And your sponsor is like, okay. They're going to make you more discoverable. I love that.
Come on. Fingers snap on that one. Thank you. Dr. Sam, what final thoughts do you have for our listeners? And how can the all one nurse community support your work?
[01:00:37] Speaker B: Oh, goodness. This is the toughest question of the episode, but the first one is, I am so grateful for this platform. Number one, for those who are listening, you're here for a reason. Something that is shared on this platform. You need it. You're searching for an opportunity to learn more about this nursing profession, to find connection, which is so important, and to see nurses who are still dedicated to the profession. And you need to see this. So I'm excited to be able to be a part of this community and to serve in this way.
I want to support by serving. And so I am in the process of writing a book for nursing students.
[01:01:21] Speaker A: Come on.
[01:01:21] Speaker B: And I want to be able to give back to this community. And once this is released and shared, I want to be able to serve this community by releasing it to all. One Nurse podcast. First, y' all gonna get the sneak peek preview.
[01:01:37] Speaker A: Come on. Thank you. Thank you.
[01:01:39] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:01:40] Speaker A: Yes. Thank you.
Thank you.
And how can they connect with Simply faith?
[01:01:47] Speaker B: Yes. So fantafaith.com is my website. This is where my blog, Simply Faith, is housed. And then you'll also be able to connect with my other socials, Facebook, Fantafaith Calhoun, as well as Instagram to Samantha Faith. And then I also have a YouTube channel. But everything is on Samantha. Faith got you.
[01:02:09] Speaker A: And I know that you mentioned faithworks Consulting.
[01:02:12] Speaker B: Yes, yes. So once you reach out to me, I can text you.
[01:02:17] Speaker A: Okay. I will also list STS Enterprise and faithworks Consulting because I just love it. I love the vision and the mission of everything that you do and everything that you're connected to. Sam. It's awesome. Thank you. Truly awesome.
As a friend, a sister in Christ, a fellow nurse, thank you so much for just getting on here and just sharing all your wisdom and having this conversation with us. I really appreciate it.
[01:02:53] Speaker B: You're welcome. And just thank you for the opportunity. It's truly humbling. And thank you for everything that you do for the nursing community.
We need to see your light and I thank you so much for sharing it. We need it. Thank you.
[01:03:05] Speaker A: As I wrap up this episode, I just want to say thank you so much for joining us for this powerful conversation with Dr. Samantha Calhoun, aka Dr. Sam. Her wisdom heart for mentorship and faith filled leadership are exactly what this community is all about. And so I know this is not the end of our conversation and I look forward to linking up with Dr. Sam again right now. Up next on the podcast is a full faith filled episode designed to pour into you so it will be just me and you. And whether you're in nursing school, navigating your first year as a nurse, or just trying to breathe through life transitions, I truly believe each All One Nurse episode carries something for everyone.
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Bye.
[01:07:02] Speaker B: Sam.
